Sometime between 2011 and 2038 there will come a deadly war so widespread and so terrible that people will cry up to God for mercy. It is a war that many post-Biblical prophets have anticipated for our time, the start of the new millennium, some of these warnings written as long ago as AD 346. Many people will prophesy and falsely name it "Armageddon", but to those of us who survive, it will be remembered as World War III.
Many people have asked me when we will know World War III has begun or if it has already begun. I usually reply that it will be up to future historians to decide.
Yes, the 9/11 attack could have been the trigger for World War III.
Yes, the US invasion of Afghanistan begun October 7, 2001 and continuing low-level conflict there against Al Qaeda could have been the first battle of the war.
Yes, the US invasion of Iraq and overthrow of Saddam's regime begun March 19, 2003 and a continuing American and UK military presence there could be the second battle of the war and stage one of a larger Middle East conflict to come in *post-war* Iraq involving Turkey, Iran, the Kurds, and Syria or a US defence of Iraq against Iranian efforts to turn Iraq into another Islamic state -- a regional conflict that eventually may become linked with the struggle between Israel, the Palestinians, Lebanon, and Syria.
Yes, the "war on terror" *could* end up being synonymous with "World War III", providing the US pursues all of the goals and provisions initially stated in its "war on terror" policy. In my opinion, these goals and provisions cannot be pursued without leading to a global conflict somewhere down the line.
Yes, for that matter, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that began in September 2000 could even have been the true beginning of World War III, but only if linkage is made militarily between the US War on Terror and the crisis in Israel or an Arab-Israel conflict erupts and spreads throughout the entire region.
Yes, the fighting between Israel and the Palestinians *could* end with a cease-fire and a peace settlement and the Bush administration *could* conclude the war on terror. Bush could decide no futher missions need take place beyond Afghanistan and Iraq, engaging in constructive dialogue with the other two "axis of evil" countries, Iran and North Korea.
If the latter happens, then we are *probably* not in World War III nor are we *likely* anywhere near the start of it.
Still, the applecart could easily be knocked over by powers other than the United States.
Fortunately, there are many prophecies that, when taken together, help establish a chronology of World War III. Some of these are presented elsewhere on my web site, others have yet to be discussed.
Three years ago I introduced many of you to the prophecies of Alois Irlmaier. His prophecy of World War III will remain a permanent presentation on my web site. Currently, it can still be read in its entirety on Russia in News and Prophecy (Part One).
Irlmaier is only one of many prophets from Central and Eastern Europe (and a few from Western Europe) that fall under the general category of "European and Catholic Prophets." These are people who lived in medieval, Renaissance, modern, and contemporary times, but who all share the same central theme in their visions: a massive, lightning-quick invasion of most of Europe by Russia and/or "the East."
They are sometimes also called Catholic prophets because they warn of what will occur to the Catholic Church and the Pope following this invasion. Some of them also speak of the "three days of darkness," a warning supposedly passed down to mankind through the ages by inspired prophets of the Church and by the intercession of the Virgin Mary.
More contemporary European prophets, some of who are still living (like the Seer of Waldviertel), consider the invasion of Europe by Russia or the East and everything that immediately follows as "World War III." This is because the focus of the prophets of Europe, by and large, has always been Russo-phobic and Euro-centric, obviously.
Of course, future historians may not agree with this view after the real war finally plays out. The reason for this is revealed by some of the Catholic Prophets who have foreseen other wars and battles occurring before the invasion of Europe. Indeed, there is a great amount of linkage between these other conflicts and the invasion from Russia/the East.
There is one very important element consistently missing from every one of these prophets' chronologies of World War III: the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Instead, there is mention of a return to a simpler time and of a great Church Age led by men of the clergy and Holy emperors. However, some discuss the reign of this Church Age under a great monarch who later gives up his soul and his throne to God in Jerusalem. Then comes the Antichrist whose rule is never outlined.
Also, older versions of this theme, such as that of the future according to St Methodius, 4th Century, have up to five "Roman Emperors" or "great monarchs" following World War III, each one locked in future world wars and eras of peace beyond the Third World War. The fourth or fifth of these emperors is the last monarch of the West who gives up his throne and soul at Jerusalem to be followed by the Antichrist.
The purpose of bringing this up is that it is clear from these many prophecies that it is highly unlikely that most of the events Bible scholars and Islamic apocalypse scholars associate with World War III actually should be applied in this way. However, this is not to say that some Bible and Islamic prophecy will not be realised in the coming war -- just not all of it. It is indeed most prrobable that Daniel's Chapter 8 and first few verses of Chapter 11 are exclusively about World War III. It is also quite possible that Jeremiah's war of the King of Babylon, Ezekiel's war of Gog, and Islam's "Roman wars" with Syria, then Egypt, then yet another against India and Korea with the aid of Moslem nations are all facets of World War III as well.
It is the later material, Daniel's wars between kings of the south and the north, John's kings of the east who number 200,000,000 and the battle of Armageddon, and Islam's wars of the Sufyaani and the Mahdi that I doubt apply to the current and coming conflict. They are end of time, Tribulation-era wars which I believe the mounting evidence that shall appear in these pages will demonstrate are another 230 years into the future.
Even so, we will be addressing these conflicts too, but in a different timeline.
We all know that, depending on the prophecy, Russia, "the East," Islamic forces, or all of the above, will invade Europe. When this happens, World War III will be well under way. However, this aspect of the war and the aftermath we will leave to another time.
We will not have to wait for Russia to invade Europe to know the Third World War has truly begun. We will know when our television screens are awash with war coverage from both the Middle East and the Balkans.
This is the reason why we should now be watching events unfolding in the Middle East closely: whether it is the post-war tensions building in Iraq, especially between central Sunnis and southern Shiites and between Kurd, Turkoman, Iranian, and Turkish forces in the north, the stirring up of the Shiite population of Iraq by Iran, Palestinian suicide bombers killing 20 people in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem, or Israeli F16 retaliation for Katushya rocket attacks launched by Hezbollah from southern Lebanon and Shebaa Farms.
Yes, these crises can subside. It would be best for all of us if they do. But what if things only grow worse?
All prophecy is a skeleton. Missing are the muscles, the ligaments, the blood vessels, the organs, and the flesh.
We spend endless and useless hours and days trying to put meat on the bones of prophecy. This process is called "speculation."
Still, "speculation" draws us no closer to the task of putting meat on the bones. For when events finally do unfold, the unfolding is often not what we expected. The anticipated event nears, so close that we recognise it as we do our own face in the mirror, yet we are still shocked and surprised just as those who have no foreknowledge.
With this in mind, let us assemble the bones of what will be.
It would seem that global anti-war rallies may be held along with intense international diplomacy to avoid yet another war in the Middle East or that peace will indeed come to the region -- but that the peace will be a false one. One way or another, major war breaks out in that part of the world: whether from conflict between Turkey, Iran, and the Kurds over the fate of northern Iraq, a civil war in Iraq that spreads to adjacent countries the US is unable to stop, a US war with Iran to keep it from trying to turn Iraq into a fundamentalist Islamic state allied to Teheran, a US war with Syria arising from an attempt to crush the Lebanese Hezbollah or to keep Syria from aiding the Iraqi rebels and hiding Iraq's WMD at suspected sites, or even a sudden unexpected Arab-Israeli conflict that pulls in the US. Soon after, or during, the Balkans explodes.
Regarding the murder of the "third high-ranked," based on this prophecy alone, it is difficult to know whether Irlmaier means a third leader will be assassinated after two others have already been killed or if only one will be murdered and that he will be third from top in power. Irlmaier, however, clarifies that it will indeed be three assassinated leaders in another prophecy he made afterwards concerning the same scenario:
Note that, in the first Irlmaier prophecy, he seems uncertain as to the nationality of the third leader who is killed. He says, "I think it will be at the Balkans, but I cannot say it exactly." This uncertainty is echoed again in the following prophecy made by Irlamier shortly before his death on July 29, 1959:
Again, Irlmaier is unsure if the third man killed will be a Balkans leader or not. However, he offers us the other nation he may be the leader of: Czechoslovakia. If true, this is consistent with other European prophecies concerning a Russian invasion of Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary and the destruction of the city Prague (another persistent theme found in Irlmaier's prophecies).
1) A major war in the Middle East will precede all other events.
2) The actual course of the Middle East war is not explained. However, one aspect of the war will involve US forces in Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf. We are told that America loses the war there, but that Russia gains control of the oil fields.
We are also told that Russia must strengthen her southern flank which is defined as Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Greece, and Yugoslavia.
How will she do this? Probably through alliances, subversive acts, and direct military conflict.
Russia already enjoys an alliance with Iran, Greece, and Serbia. In Iran and Greece, alliances and weapons support will be strengthened or, in the case of Serbia, subversive actions may take place to incite a Balkans conflict. Iraq has been temporarily lost, but may be regained by subversive actions taken by Iran. Turkey, according to Erna Stieglitz, will require military conquest.
But what of Afghanistan? Russia is now attempting to destabilise that country and return the Taliban to power according to the following report: Russia funding resurgent Taliban - May 11, 2003.
The other aspect of the war deals with what appears to be a doomed effort by US and European forces to turn the tide of the Middle East war in Egypt and in the Eastern Mediterranean. Since Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan are part of the Russian southern flank not invaded by Russia, we must assume they are allies of Russia. Therefore, Egypt will be the ultimate battleground between Western forces and "greater Iran" (Iran and Iraq) and Afghanistan, with Egypt the final prize.
As I will discuss a bit later, to US strategists like Richard Perle and Laurent Murawiec, Egypt is literally "the ultimate prize":
Murawiec offered a 'Grand Strategy for the Middle East.' "Iraq is the tactical pivot, Saudi Arabia the strategic pivot, Egypt the prize."
Another final battle in the region occurring at the same time as the one in Egypt will involve a Russian attack on Turkey from the north and an attack on Turkey by Iran.
3) At some point during the war in the Middle East wars will start up in the Balkans. Then there will be war in both the Middle East and the Balkans.
4) New York City will be destroyed by nuclear terrorists (see full Waldviertler prophecy) once war has erupted in the Balkans.
5) Italy and Germany will become occupied with civil wars during this time according to the Waldviertler. However, if one reads the Irlmaier prophecy in full, these civil wars (including one in France) will not occur until after the Eastern army's advance has been stopped and the enemy forces driven out of Europe.
5) The most serious Balkan wars will take place in Yugoslavia and Bulgaria. There may be others not named, such as Macedonia. Fighting will eventually grow so intense that nuclear weapons will be used in naval battles in the Adriatic Sea and Eastern Mediterranean.
6) Three Balkan leaders will be assassinated before the invasion of Europe begins. The assassination of the first two leaders may be the trigger of the Balkans wars predicted by the Seer of Waldviertel.
7) The worst Balkan conflict will have its origin in Hungary or Yugoslavia (now Serbia and Montengro) only days before the Russian invasion begins. If it is northern Serbia, close to the Hungarian border, than it could be the ethnic Hungarian province of Vojvodina. It is possible we may be able to read "days" as "a few months" or "several months." According to the Sister of Queen Brigite Order it will be caused by the assassination of a Yugoslav (likely a Serb) or Hungarian leader. Irlmaier, on the other hand, suggests the leader may either be a Czech or Yugoslav.
Note the similarity between the prophesied assassination of a leader from Yugoslav-Hungary as starting World War III and the historical assassination of the Archduke of Austria-Hungary as the trigger for World War I. Is it possible that some of these inspired prophets are simply regurgitating history as prophecy or is this an instance of history repeating itself (the premise of my base 7 system)?
8) After all this, Russia invades the entire Balkan region, including the former Yugoslavia and Greece, then advances into the Adriatic Sea. Next comes an invasion of Italy, then the blitzkrieg of all Europe.
This is critical, for the French seer provided us with extraordinary detail in his quatrains. There is much evidence of inter-Arab and inter-Moslem fighting in the Middle East and a generalised state of war in the region. Israel is mentioned only once, and as being defeated by Babylon (Iraq). We also have the famous Alus quatrain that gives us some idea how bad things will get.
The infamous Mabus quatrain, however, is not specific enough for us to relate to the Middle East.
We will focus instead on the more specific elements provided by Irlmaier, Waldviertler, and Erna Stieglitz. The most obvious starting point is the idea that there will be wars in the Middle East and the Balkans at the same time. Indeed, it appears that one conflict even spreads to the other. Other points discussed will also present themselves.
is wrecked near the Adriatic Sea,
There are naval battles in the Adriatic Sea in both of the above quatrains. The Waldviertler also mentions nuclear weapons causing tidal waves in the Adriatic. Nostradamus may be describing a nuclear explosion when he says that "the earth trembles, pushed into the air and to the ground placed."
Egypt appears to be more than a mere battleground in both quatrains -- it is the last stand in the region by the West against Moslem forces that have already taken over the rest of the Middle East. Egypt's fate appears to be linked to that of Greece. Both countries will fall to Eastern and Russian forces.
In Quatrain 5.27 we can see the attacks on Turkey, the only other pro-Western bastion in the region besides Egypt, by Iran and Russia as echoed by Erna Stieglitz. The Arabs have reached the Balkans as well as allies of Russia. They will do poorly in naval combat with Nato forces.
The Levant is the coastal Mediterranean part of the Middle East (Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, and Egypt). This deployment concurs with Alois Irlmaier and with the Waldviertler. If there is civil war in Italy, it would appear that Islamic elements will be involved in inciting it (unless the "Barbarians" are the Russians).
Here is direct intervention in the Balkans by Ishmael, which stands for the Arab nation. Since Erna Stieglitz lists Iraq as the only Arab ally of Russia in the south, we must conclude that this is an Iraqi invasion of Croatia (which means the new, post-war Iraq will once again become an adversary of the West). Of course, Afghanistan is also listed and, at this writing, may still be the hide-out of Osama bin Laden who is a Saudi-born Arab. Syria is not listed, but must be considered.
The identity of "the great Arab" remains uncertain. It could be Syrian President Bashar al-Assad if, despite the devastating attacks on his country, he remains in power. Then again, it could be the young, charismatic, Iraqi Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadrif. The nation of Iraq, in the eyes of some, was indeed "betrayed" by the Turks. Or "the great Arab" could be Osama bin Laden or Moammar Gadhafi. Quite unlikely an event, but not if there should be aid from Russia. He may even be a new, terrifying figure not yet come to power.
Here is evidence of America's defeat in the Persian Gulf (and Saudi Arabia). This is also juxtaposed by the Seer of Waldviertel with the civil war in the Federal Republic of Germany, east of the Rhine. It would appear that Nostradamus believes the civil war will be instigated by Russia ("the bear"). All the while France is preparing for the coming blitzkrieg.
It is believed that Nostradamus foresaw the nuclear destruction of New York City. Both Alois Irlmaier and the Seer of Waldviertel also warn us that New York City will be destroyed before World War III in Europe gets underway, during the Middle East and Balkan conflicts. We will discuss Irlmaier's version later.
The Farmer of Krems or the Seer of Waldviertel was born in 1939 and is alive today. He gives us a deeper insight into the events that precede the Russian blitzkrieg, which include a major war in the Middle East, conflicts in the Balkans, and the nuclear destruction of New York City by terrorists.
I translated much of this in April 2002 and had some additional help from a German member (Tolwin) of my forum.
To the best of my knowledge the following is the first complete English translation of the Waldviertler prophecy of World War III and the events that precede it.
On September 17, 2001, a reverend from Tirol, Josef Stocker, spoke to the seer by telephone. Regarding the New York attack of September 11, 2001 the Farmer of Krems said:
Besides that he also sees the approach of entire major battles in Egypt against us (Western forces). Before the start of the Third World War, he sees a limited conflict on the Balkan Peninsula and the destruction of New York. It is summer-like weather:
"Not less obvious he described to me the destruction of New York. He took the wax model of a marzipan (candy) form that was standing on my closet from Ulm, and demonstrated, as if this high format body would be a skyscraper, how the buildings of Manhattan were pulverised from below and getting smaller and smaller at the same time, until they collapse and the area, on which the famous city sky line once rose, becomes flat ground again."
"He saw, however, not only the downfall of New York, but also he saw himself with other people of his village standing side by side and commenting on the event. So this is to be the "great revenge" of the terrorists, he heard them say. Certainly, what the Americans had done was not pretty. Even so, for someone to therefore immediately destroy an entire city, that was decidely going too far! So the people spoke.
"A limited conflict on the Balkan Peninsula and the destruction of New York will be the beginning of warlike actions, but not yet worth mentioning any war effects on central Europe."
What the Kremser farmer yet saw:
After an extensive interview with the Farmer of Krems in his homeland in August 1979, Wolfgang Johannes Bekh writes: "he described, with extended arms in the distant contours of the Bohemian forests, of the Third World War. Once again he clarified what nations would be involved, although some aspects of the war remained concealed to him. Still, he emphasised the sequence in which the nations would enter the war.
It has already been mentioned that he saw several regional wars and certain warlike actions. For example he saw wars in Yugoslavia and Bulgaria and the destruction of New York (a "warlike action") among other things. He also saw a civil war in Italy and in the Federal Republic of Germany, east of the Rhine. At the highpoint of the chaos in Italy, the Russians would then march through Carinthia into Italy. America, in apprehension, would not interfere with this invasion.
The "total war" with American participation will take place first in Saudi Arabia when the Americans become involved in a great Middle East conflict; however they will do poorly. Russia will defeat America. Poland will rise against the Russians as an ally of the West. Russia then launches blitzkrieg actions into Germany.
He then described to me a singular aspect of the final stage of the war. He saw tanks and chain vehicles upon which mobile missiles were mounted. They were stationed southwesternly, in Krems, against Zwettl and Großgerungs there. If China were to become involved, said the farmer, deep would be the invasion against Germany, especially in Bavaria. Then China would come with tanks into the West. The Chinese would help the West. Yet few would be delighted about that happening in Germany. This last stage of the terrible war lasts only a few days."
At another place in his discourse, he spoke about a German emperor who would rise to power after the war:
I have only recently discovered that Alois Irlmaier concurs with the Seer of Waldviertel's prophecy of the destruction of New York City and strange events originating from outer space prior to World War III. It is brief, but to the point:
Sequence of events (thus far):
1) War and new alliances forged
in the Middle East, with US, European, and Russian participation.
2) Wars break out in the Balkans, one or more possibly triggered by political assassination. Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia are named.
3) Destruction of NYC by terrorists -- possibly in retaliation for US actions in Iraq or the next phase of the war on terror (war against Iran or Syria).
4) War breaks out between China, North Korea ("Asians") and the United States. West coast cities are attacked by ICBMs and SLBMs.
5) Wars in the Balkans worsen. Last Middle East battles in Egypt and Turkey. Horrific naval battles in Eastern Mediterranean and Adriatic involving nuclear weapons.
6) Signs in the skies before World War III. The Waldviertler describes a meteor storm from space or possibly millions of lava rocks cast off by the eruption of a super-volcano. He warns it will occur in summer, but it is unclear if it happens before the war in Europe or during. One of the Waldviertler's chroniclers says it will be before.
7) Russia invades the Balkans, then Italy, then onward into Europe ...
All of these points are in concurrance, save the role of China and presumably North Korea. Irlmaier says "Asians" will be an enemy of the United States, attacking the West Coast from the Pacific, while the Waldviertler suggests China may aid Western Europe against Russia.
Perhaps there is not a conflict between the two visionaries, however. The "Asians" may be the North Koreans only and not the Chinese. If so, China could still side with the West. But note that the Seer of Waldviertel is non-commital on the issue of China. He says with qualification, "IF (note "if") China were to become involved," and if the Russian invasion against Germany were to be deep, then "the Chinese would help the West." This is highly conditional ... and the Waldviertler does not tell us what China will do if it chooses not to help the West.
Regarding New York, with Irlmaier agreeing, we can ill afford to ignore the singular and highly-detailed prophecy of doom for NYC by the Seer of Waldviertel. He is still alive and he remains insistent!
We will also find quite an impressive number of other European prophecies that mention wars in the Balkans preceding the blitzkrieg on Europe.
Still, there is something amiss.
What is missing from our list? The civil wars in Italy, Germany, and France. There are, unfortunately, some major discrepancies.
According to Alois Irlmaier, Italy and France will not know "revolutions" until after the Russians have been driven out of Europe. He makes no mention of civil war in Germany. He is not entirely alone:
Here Stieglitz concurs that France and Italy will be plunged into chaos and revolution after the Russians are defeated. Other nations may also be indicated, but are not named.
Conversely, the Waldviertler sees "civil wars" in Germany and Italy preceding a Russian blitzkrieg of Italy and the rest of Europe.
However, later, he says, "to be certain, I did not know the exact timing of civil wars in Italy and France, for the oppressive threat out of these countries against Germany is difficult to articulate ... Appearances of events to come that I would not personally experience, I saw blurred."
Note that now France is added to the list of nations undergoing civil war, as prophesied by Irlmaier and Stieglitz.
The Waldviertler has only one other prophet who corroborates a pre-WW3 civil wars scenario (thus far, anyway):
Kugelbeer not only concurs that Germany and Italy will be in a state of revolution before the Russian attack, but so will France and so will England. What is more, he seems to imply that the war in Europe is actually a Mega-Revolution: it begins in Russia and spreads to the Balkans and on to the rest of Europe.
Is it possible that a major crisis in Moscow could become all of Europe's revolution or civil war? It may be a contrived revolution by the secret communists and their KGB lord, Vlad Putin, to establish a legal pretext to occupy Europe militarily -- a sham revolution to deceive the United States into non-action!
More likely, as events over the last year suggest, is that the revolutions and civil wars will arise from ethnic, religious, and civil rights quarrels between Islamic minorities and governments and pro-government forces of nations like France, Italy, Germany, the Balkans, and Russia. This is the one common denominator we see throughout Europe and Russia: growing Muslim populations at odds with government policies, ethnic persecution, and growing incitements by Islamic terrorists seeking to exacerbate tensions.
So, perhaps, the beginnings of civil disorder will be seen soon in the form of mass demonstrations, acts of civil disobedience, government crackdowns, and acts of terrorism. Then, when war is ignited, these conditions will worsen and turn into full-scale revolutions, civil wars, and total anarchy.
Due to the gradual development of these civil conflicts, we might be tempted to place them as escalating during the Balkans wars to come, although some of them may have already begun.
A few more paragraphs by the Seer of Waldviertel have been added to the entire prophetic text above. This material was absent from the first source I translated. After the destruction of Manhattan, he is speaking with and listening to various people commenting on the terrorist act. They all remark that something America has done or will do was "not very pretty," but hardly does it deserve the total destruction of a great city like New York. That this is going too far!
This "something" could be the recent war against Iraq, the civilian casualties incurred there, the US "occupation" of the country, and something terrible that may yet arise from the continuing guerrilla campaign, such as a massive slaughtering of civilians by US forces. Or the US could be blamed for creating the conditions that have led to a great loss of Iraqi lives by acts of terrorism committed by monsters like Musab al-Zarqawi. It could be a singular retaliation triggered by the execution of Saddam Hussein. A third and distinct possibility is that the destuction of NYC will be punishment for a devastating US or joint US-Israeli air war against the Lebanese Hezbollah and the nation of Syria, believed by some to be the next stage of the war on terror. If the last scenario is correct, the offence warned of by the Waldviertler has not yet been committed.
The event that would most likely incur the wrath of Al Qaeda would be a massive conventional or unconventional air attack against Syria or Iran -- one that might cost many more civilian lives than in past operations in Libya and Iraq. The bombing of a densely-populated neighbourhood, hospital, or shelter could provoke universal hatred against the US. One need not resort to nuclear weapons to see what horrors conventional air bombing is capable of. Cases in point are the Allied bombing of Dresden and the American bombing of Tokyo during World War II or Richard Nixon's air campaigns against Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, and North Vietnam in 1970 and 1971 during the height of the Vietnam War.
The other possibility is that the US will be forced to become militarily involved in Israel's war if it spreads beyond her borders into Lebanon and Syria. Any US action against Lebanon and Syria, even if it is only on par with the Nato air strikes against the Bosnian Serbs in August/September 1995, might appear excessively brutal if there are unintentional civilian casualties. Due to the great hatred terrorists have for Israel in the first place, very little action from the US would be required to fan the fanatical flames of "Islamic" retribution. Even a US peacekeeping operation in Israel and the Palestinian territories that goes wrong could be the trigger.
Still, all of this speculation falls on the prophecies of one man: the Seer of Waldviertel -- for only he has "witnessed" the destruction of NYC and placed it in any sort of sequence of events.
The Seer of Waldviertel is insistent that America will go to war in Saudi Arabia as part of a larger Middle East conflict. He also says that US forces will do poorly there and will eventually be defeated. At first, I thought that perhaps he was mistaking a war with Iraq or Iran -- a Persian Gulf War in other words -- with combat on the Arabian peninsula or perhaps that the war against Iraq will spill over into Saudi Arabia. While this remains a possibility, we must consider that war in and against Saudi Arabia is what is intended.
For one thing, should an economic collapse occur in the United States as a result of a global depression, coupled with a Saudi oil embargo similar to the one of 1973-74, one cannot rule out the US attempting to gain control of the Saudi oil fields by force. Indeed, if the current economic "slow motion" crash continues, this may become far more important than the recent invasion of Iraq.
However, barring that, why else should the US go to war in Saudi Arabia? Isn't Saudi Arabia a strategic ally of the United States in the Middle East?
The real reason may have only recently been reported:
Bin Laden plans to instigate U.S. attack on Saudi Arabia
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, January 30, 2004
Al Qaida has drafted a strategy that includes an effort to destroy relations between Saudi Arabia and the United States, according to the "Voice of Jihad," an Internet site.
An online publication said to be sponsored by Al Qaida spelled out the Islamic movement's strategy as provoking a split between Riyad and Washington. The publication said Al Qaida seeks to launch a major attack on the United States that would result in its retaliation against Saudi Arabia.
Meanwhile, the U.S. State Dept. confirmed that it had expelled Saudi diplomats.
The Voice of Jihad, which has carried other statements from Al Qaida, quoted a message from Osama Bin Laden as saying that the United States will be the target of a major attack. The message said Al Qaida hopes Washington will then seek to capture the Saudi oil fields and overthrow the royal family.
On Thursday, Al Qaida continued its attacks on the Saudi regime, Middle East Newsline reported. Five Saudi security officers were killed in a shootout with suspected Al Qaida insurgents in Riyad. The insurgents were said to have stored weapons in plans to launch an attack during the current Islamic pilgrimage in the Saudi kingdom.
In late 2003, CIA officials told Congress that Al Qaida has targeted the Saudi royal family. The officials said Al Qaida wants to isolate the kingdom by driving out the Western presence and leaving the family defenseless.
"We continue to strike at America and we expect that our next blow will cause the collapse of the situation [in Saudi Arabia] as a result of a vengeful response," Sheik Abdullah Al Rashoud said in the Jan. 20 issue of the "Voice of Jihad." "The first result [of this attack] will be the direct occupation of the oil resources and the U.S. entry [into Saudi Arabia] in order to implement a fundamental change."
[At the same time, the State Department acknowledged that it ordered the expulsion of 16 Saudi diplomats. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the diplomats had been employed as instructors at a Saudi-sponsored religious college in Virginia rather than working in the Saudi embassy in Washington.]
"You see day after day an increase in military operations and terrorist operations in Saudi Arabia, and the Saudi Arabian government is working very hard to defeat the terrorist threat," Gen. John Abizaid, the chief of U.S. Central Command, told a briefing in Washington.
The Saudi Interior Ministry said the shootout erupted when security forces raided an insurgency hideout. The ministry said one insurgent was arrested and another was killed.
The detainee, who was not named, was identified as one of the leading fugitives wanted by Saudi authorities. Another eight suspected Al Qaida operatives were said to have escaped.
Is there sufficient suspicion that Saudi Arabia has a share of the responsibility for terrorist attacks against the United States and US interests? It would seem that not only that is the case, but that Saudi Arabia is part of a three-stage "grand strategy" for American domination of the Middle East. In Whose War? by Patrick Buchanan appearing in The American Conservative, March 24, 2003, Buchanan quotes a former aide to Lyndon LaRouche named Laurent Murawiec. Says Buchanan:
On July 10, 2002, (Richard) Perle invited a former aide to Lyndon LaRouche named Laurent Murawiec to address the Defense Policy Board. In a briefing that startled Henry Kissinger, Murawiec named Saudi Arabia as the kernel of evil, the prime mover, the most dangerous opponent of the United States.
Washington should give Riyadh an ultimatum, he said. Either you Saudis prosecute or isolate those involved in the terror chain, including the Saudi intelligence services, and end all propaganda against Israel, or we invade your country, seize your oil fields, and occupy Mecca.
In closing his PowerPoint presentation, Murawiec offered a Grand Strategy for the Middle East. Iraq is the tactical pivot, Saudi Arabia the strategic pivot, Egypt the prize. Leaked reports of Murawiecs briefing did not indicate if anyone raised the question of how the Islamic world might respond to U.S. troops tramping around the grounds of the Great Mosque.
Should Bin Laden's plan to play on anti-Saudi feelings and incite a US invasion through nuclear terrorism succeed, then we may know the chronology of events.
First a nuclear device is triggered in New York City by Al Qaeda terrorists with strong ties to Saudi Arabia. Unlike 911, this time the US blames the Saudi government for harbouring terrorists and launches a major military invasion and occupation of Saudi Arabia.
It is here the US loses the war, according to the Seer of Waldviertel. And it will happen when America attempts to seize the oil wells, according to Erna Stieglitz.
If the destruction of NYC is Bin Laden's "punishment" for an ongoing air campaign by the US against Syria, but the US believes Saudi Arabia must be held responsible, US forces will be spread more thinly in a military operation against the Saudis. In the meantime, a greater foe enters Arabia that America will be ill-equipped to deal with, according tio Stieglitz: Russia. There is evidence that Russia might rush to challenge the US in the Arabian oil fields:
Saudi Arabia and Russia Sign Accord on Gas and Oil
By BLOOMBERG NEWS
September 3, 2003
MOSCOW, Sept. 2 - Saudi Arabia and Russia, the world's two largest oil suppliers, agreed today to work on easing rules for setting up joint ventures in the oil and natural gas industry.
The Russian energy minister, Igor Yusufov, and the Saudi oil minister, Ali al-Naimi, signed the agreement in the Kremlin, where President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and Saudi Arabia's leader, Crown Prince Abdullah, met, the Kremlin news service said. The crown prince is the highest ranking Saudi official to visit since 1926.
The countries will "simplify procedures for setting joint ventures and will promote joint research on oil and gas exploration, production, refining and transportation," said the agreement, published on the Russian government's Web site.
Saudi Arabia and Russia need to agree on a list of possible ventures, the agreement said ...
Saudi-Russian Rapprochement: U.S. Should Beware
by Dr. Ariel Cohen
The Heritage Foundation
September 12, 2003
The Bush Administration needs to monitor a new geopolitical shift that is taking place following the visit of de-facto ruler of Saudi Arabia, Crown Prince Abullah to Russia on September 1-2. Moscow and Riyadh, old rivals, now claim to have found a common agenda, which spans oil, terrorism, and arms sales.
Moscow wants to intercept money flowing to the Chechen rebels from the Persian Gulf, sell arms and attract Saudi investment. No longer sure of their close relationship with Washington, the Saudis are reaching out to the Russians. In the aftermath of the Iraq War, Riyadh is looking to balance U.S. influence in the Persian Gulf. The Saudis also hope to diversify their sources of imported weapons. They have signaled to Washington that they want to keep all geopolitical options open ...
The upshot of all this could be a Saudi Arabia under direct Al Qaeda control. Afghanistan all over again, in other words, but in a very strategic region of the Middle East. However, in this case, there may be no power-sharing with a group like the Taliban.
Osama Bin Laden would be welcomed by the Saudis to head a new regime. He would then become something more dangerous than a leader of a global terrorist network: Bin Laden would become a terrorist head-of-state as the new caliph of Saudi Arabia. What is more, since his roots are also in Yemen, under Bin Laden the entire Arabian Peninsula could become unified.
What does Nostradamus think? It appears he forsees something quite similar to what I have concluded:
Osama bin Laden was born in Saudi Arabia and the family has its roots in Yemen. Any way you look at it, Bin Laden is native to the Arabian Peninsula and Saudi Arabia has been the most affluent (fortunate) of Arab nations. Once American military force has been eliminated from the Middle East, Nostradamus forsees an anti-West military campaign spreading from the Middle East into southern Europe -- where the prophets warn of great acts of terrorism being committed and civil wars and revolutions being incited by Islamic factions.
This could be Osama bin Laden as "the great Arab." Quite unlikely an event, but not when there is aid from the former Soviet Union, Iran, Afghanistan, China, and a possible pact with Moscow.
Yes, it is still possible that "Adaluncatif" could be John Hogue's anagram for Cadafi Luna (Moammar Gadhafi of the Crescent Moon). However, one can see another name forming here as well. Erika Cheetham thought she saw "caliph" hidden within the anagram. If she is correct, might "Adaluncatif" instead become A Ladun Calif (approximation of Bin Laden Caliph or Caliph Bin Laden)?
But who is this all-important "son" of Osama Bin Laden? Is the "son" Bin Laden himself -- the terrorist "son" of the wealthy Bin Laden family empire? Or could it be a blood heir to the terrorist organisation founded by Osama Bin Laden -- an actual son? The following report suggests the latter:
Bin Laden's Son, Saad, Seen Gaining Power
Mon Jul 29, 2:40 PM ET
By JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - Osama bin Laden's son Saad has become a rising star in his father's terrorist network, gaining so much new authority that U.S. counterterrorism officials now consider him among their top two dozen targets in al-Qaida. Saad bin Laden has provided financial and other logistical support for several al-Qaida operations, said one official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
Saad, a Saudi like his father, is thought to be in his early 20s, and is one of Osama bin Laden's eldest sons, officials said. Also, like his father, he is thought to be in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region.
Osama bin Laden, himself in his mid-to-late-40s, has at least 23 children by numerous wives, officials said. "Some of them share his ideology," one counterterrorism official said. "(Saad) is definitely a believer."
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Monday that men like bin Laden's son will keep al-Qaida dangerous even if his father is killed. "There are three, four, five, six, seven people who could who know where the bank accounts are, who know the key players, the key planners, and are perfectly capable of running that operation," he told reporters. "Whether the son ends up being one of them, one never knows until there's a sort that takes place."
U.S. officials have no evidence that Saad bin Laden played a role in the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, but he is suspected to have provided support for al-Qaida's April 11 bombing of a synagogue in Tunisia that left 19 dead, most of them German tourists. It marked al-Qaida's first successful terrorist operation outside of the Afghanistan region since the Sept. 11 attacks ...
Officials attributed Saad's importance to simple blood ties: when most of the world is hunting for him, Osama bin Laden can trust his son. He began his rise last year as the United States went to war on al-Qaida in Afghanistan and elsewhere, officials said. It has accelerated even as the terrorist network decentralized its power structure. This move, under way since earlier this year, gives commanders in the field more authority to conduct terrorist operations without guidance from bin Laden's inner circle. However, officials have no evidence that Saad bin Laden is positioned to take over al-Qaida in the event of his father's death or capture.
According to Quatrain 10.96, either Osama bin Laden or his son, Saad, will lose his war against Christendom. The two Alephs are unknown at this time. The religion named after the sea, again, is Christianity which used the fish as its secret symbol during the early Roman empire.
Ultimately, if Erna Stieglitz is correct, after Syria is neutralised by the US (and possibly Israel too), Russia will enter the Middle East on the side of Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia, defeat the US and drive out its military, and gain control of most of the oil fields.
However, it is unlikely that Russia's Moslem allies will remain allies for long if Moscow does take the oil fields: many prophecies warn that Russia will find itself at war with its own southern flank (which will include Iran, Afghanistan, and certain Arab states). The reasons are never given for the rebellion in the south against Russia or else only dimly guessed at, but this could be the explanation.
We must admit that our chronology, such as it is, has been almost entirely dependent on the views of those who belong to the "Catholic and European Prophets" category I mentioned above as it exists from 1950 to the present.
Nostradamus also concurs with certain aspects of the preliminary scenario, namely concurrent conflict in the Balkans and the Middle East. However, he does not contribute in any way with the timing or sequencing of these events.
The question one must ask is whether there is any corroboration elsewhere that the Middle East will be the first region of conflict of World War III. One such source, very old, is from the Hopi Indians. I will focus on that which is central to our time:
(NOTE: the first eight signs, not listed here for sake of space, appear to describe the coming of the white man, his technology springing up throughout America, oil spills at sea, and the Hippie and New Age movements - MM)
As with the Waldviertler and his NYC prophecy, we have a singular odd prediction by the Hopi Indians concerning an event that will occur just prior to World War III -- perhaps days, months, or even a few years beforehand.
It will be a dwelling-place in the heavens that falls to earth: a space station. What is more, it will appear to be a blue star to the naked eye. Many people believe this to have been the Russian Mir which was de-orbited by the Russians and crashed to earth in March 2001. If this is true, then the start of World War III was indeed the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, and the worst part of the war should soon be at our doorstep. Actually one would think the worst should have begun some time ago.
Unfortunately, I have been unable to find any naked-eye images of Mir on the Internet where it appears like a blue star. What I have been able to find indicates that its appearance was pretty much like any other "normal" satellite one can see on a typical night (not like the iridium kind, however, which can flash more brightly than Venus for a few brief seconds).
Then, if Mir was not the blue star in question, what is?
Many people have asked my opinion regarding the Columbia Disaster -- was it the "blue star" and "dwelling-place in the heavens" of Hopi prophecy? It is tempting I suppose to think it might have been, considering how close theUS wasto invading Iraq at the time. But somehow, I doubt this.
It did not look like a blue star to me. I did note a brilliant sparkling effect to the shuttle just prior to and immediately following the early stages of its disintegration in some of the videos -- like a bright star, but a very bright, white star. In most shots, it looked like a mere contrail followed by other, smaller contrails. In any event, the sight of Columbia against a blue dawn sky just did not register "blue star" at all. Also, I doubt the Hopi could have confused a shuttlecraft with a "house in space."
I believe the blue star to be the International Space Station (ISS) which was as bright as the planet Jupiter as of the beginning of this 2002 according to astronomical sources. By 2005 or 2006 it has been projected to be brighter than Venus, although some watchers have compared it with Venus already. According to time tables set up for different localities, the ISS can be seen anywhere for a duration of 2 to 6 minutes. I have not been able to see it yet for various reasons, but as the photo below shows it is currently a bright amber in colour. However, when the blue solar panels are put into place, it will change from its current white-yellow colour and take on the appearance of a blue star.
If this is true, then another event must occur before the more dangerous stages of World War III can begin: the ISS must meet with a disaster in space and crash to earth. And judging from the times we are currently in, I would anticipate that could be quite soon. There was a serious air leak problem in January 2004 and numerous mishaps and systems failures reported on the ISS back in 2002 -- could this be a sign that a space accident is near?
Of course it is possible that the Hopi confused the crashing of the Mir or Columbia with the appearance of the ISS. In which case, the final sign before war has already come to pass.
And where will the war begin according to the Hopi? Where will the United States go to fight first?
"Those who possessed the first light of wisdom" and "those peoples who first revealed the light in the other old countries" can only mean one thing: "the white man" (America) will go to war as ally of some and enemy of others in the old wise nations of India, China, Korea, Japan, and the Middle East. The Hopi never mention Russia, but we can conclude the war spreads and, based on our other evidence, that the "many columns of smoke and fire" and the "atomic bombs and radioactivity" will come from Russia (and perhaps China and North Korea too).
|This is a warning for our time -- this very moment -- for nuclear war between China and the United States over Taiwan may be very near! And China can be counted among the oldest of the nations that "possessed the first light of wisdom."|
A war between China and the US would quickly involve the Korean peninsula and Japan. It could, in turn, destabilise the situation in South Asia between Pakistan and India. China has a defence pact with Pakistan and President Musharraf recently visited Beijing to reaffirm that commitment. This would make India the underdog if China sided with Pakistan and, due to a close and long-standing friendship with India, the US would "come to the rescue" of New Delhi.
Does any other prophet, from another part of the world, come even close to this scenario?
Yes, there is one:
(NOTE: according to the source, there is no literal version of his predictions to be found, only a list of sequential events and a few quotes. Johansson, it is said, accurately predicted many things, including the sinking of the Titanic, the First World War, the San Francisco Earthquake of 1906, and other events. -- MM).
Here are the events preceding an invasion of Europe by Russia:
1) India will be occupied
2) New diseases used as weapons will cause 25 million people to die (SARS? Bird Flu? Mad Cow?).
3) Persia and Turkey will be conquered by what seem to be Russian troops.
4) Revolutionaries will instigate unrest and war in India and Egypt to facilitate the occupation of India and Europe.
5) The Russians will conquer the Balkans.
Yes, both the Hopi and Johannson concur: war will begin in Korea, China, Japan, India, Pakistan, and the Middle East. As I indicated, China will enter the India-Pakistani War -- a war that will initially claim 17 million lives!
As for the "new diseases used as weapons" that cause the deaths of 25 million people -- the SARS and bird flu epidemics may be the first of these. Some reports claim the SARS virus was being engineered by China to produce a new, deadly bio weapon and was accidentally unleashed into the environment. SARS and bird flu continue to mutate and may merge with other dreaded viruses. The question is whether by use of the word "weapons" there will also be a military aspect to this prediction, thus raising the possibility of long-range missiles from nations like North Korea and Iran armed with payloads containing diseases such as cholera, anthrax, smallpox, leprosy, and bubonic plague.
Then again, anthrax, cholera, smallpox, bubonic plague, and the like are not new diseases. Ebola, SARS, and bird flu, however, are examples of some that are. But from the perspective of the late 19th Century, radiation poisoning from nuclear fallout would also appear to be a "new disease."
Johannson predicts that Iran and Turkey will be attacked by Russia. This is close to what Stieglitz says, but a bit different from Nostradamus who says Persia (Iran) will invade and conquer Turkey and then move on to Macedonia. Also, in the Book of Daniel, Persia appears to be a major ally of the former Soviet Union. Perhaps we can chalk up those discrepancies to seeing "through a glass darkly?"
The "revolutionaries" he sees stirring up trouble in Kashmir (India) and in Egypt (probably a symbol for the Middle East) are Islamic terrorists of various stripes, most of them having some link to Osama bin Laden, certain Pakistani terrorist cells, Iran, and Iraq. This "revolution" will spread to the Balkans, Italy, and possibly France before Russia invades.
It seems inevitable then: all Asia will be at war and the United States and Russia will enter into various conflicts, especially in South Asia, the Pacific, and the Middle East.
This timetable will doubtlessly change as more prophetic evidence is compiled. Perhaps this endeavour will even prove to be entirely in vain, but then again who can say?
The Prophets' Timetable - Updated 2/10/04
1) The world is crying out for peace in the Middle East or a temporary peace actually comes to the region (for the time being we are assuming the former).
2) Major war breaks out in the Middle East, but escalates gradually (Part 1).
I would break Part 1 of this war into the following stages:
a) US invasion of Iraq (completed) followed by a US battle with escalating guerrilla warfare, terrorist attacks, and civil disorder (in progress).
b) Russian-supported military subversion and aggression by the Taliban in Afghanistan and by Shiite groups in Iraq to help strengthen Moscow's "southern flank" (in progress, see Russia funding resurgent Taliban - May 11, 2003).
c) War, possibly a joint war, by Israel and the US against Arab neighbours Lebanon and Syria and their ally Iran.
According to the biblical prophet Jeremiah, "the king of Babylon" will arise out of the city of Bosrah, looking like an eagle (symbol for USA) and, along with Israel, launch catastrophic air attacks against Syria, western Jordan and the West Bank (where many Palestinian terrorists have their base), northern Israel/southern Lebanon (where Hezbollah may be launching a massive attack), and northwestern Saudi Arabia (a known part of the desert kingdom where Al Qaeda has trained in the past). This "king" is probably the current US president: George W Bush, since America now rules Iraq (Babylon). The "black and angry one" could be the "dark," "villainous," and "infamous" leader in the final line of the Alus quatrain whose identity has yet to be revealed -- one who Nostradamus says in yet another verse will enter "Mesopotamia" and tyrannise the nation. This person, if not Osama bin Laden or perhaps someone like Iraqi Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadrif, will likely come from neighbouring Iran.
3) A space station like a bright blue star crashes to earth (likely the ISS).
4) The United States and its Pacific allies go to war with China and North Korea, possibly before or sometime during the war with Syria, Lebanon, and the Palestinians. The cause may be the defence of Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan, although both China and North Korea have a war pact with Iran. War will also break out between India and Pakistan. China, an ally of Pakistan, invades India.
5) Limited conflicts break out in the former Yugoslavia (which includes Kosovo and Macedonia) and in Bulgaria. Two Balkans leaders are assassinated over a period of time.
6) New York City will be destroyed by nuclear terrorists at the behest of Al Qaeda (see full Waldviertler prophecy) in retaliation for the devastating air strikes against Syria while war continues to rage in the Middle East.
7) Major war in the Middle East escalates quickly (Part 2).
I would break Part 2 of this war into the following stages:
a) The United States will blame Saudi Arabia for the destruction of NYC, perhaps accusing it of supporting Bin Laden. US forces will move to conquer and occupy Saudi Arabia and the oil fields.
b) The United States will become embroiled in a great conflict in the Persian Gulf and in the Arabian Peninsula. It will lose the war in Saudi Arabia according to the Seer of Waldviertel. Erna Stieglitz warns that Russia will have a hand in America's defeat in the region. Russia's ally Iran will likely aid Russia in the defeat of the US as well. Russia will grab the oil fields, sharing them with Iran.
c) Alarmed by Russian and Iranian involvement in the Middle East war, Nato Europe will send troops to defend Turkey, Israel, and Egypt. This will be the final stage of the Middle East war. How long it will last is hard to say. But Turkey, at least, after protracted fighting, will be conquered by Russia and Iran.
Egypt becomes the last Middle East battleground between Nato and Islamic/Russian forces.
This appears to be a doomed effort by European forces to turn the tide of the Middle East war in Egypt and in the Eastern Mediterranean. By this time Turkey, Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan are part of the Russian southern flank. Therefore, Egypt will be the ultimate battleground between Western forces and Iran-Iraq and Afghanistan, with Egypt the final prize.
8) Great naval battles are fought in the eastern Mediterranean Sea which grow worse. Some of the fighting will be related to the defence of Turkey, Bulgaria, Israel, and Egypt; some of it will be connected to war in the former Yugoslavia, especially around Bosnia and Croatia. Russian submarines enter the conflict, using nuclear weapons against Nato or Eu European navies, creating huge tidal waves that destroy aircraft carriers and other large warships. Nuclear explosions in the Adriatic can be seen from Austria.
9) The calamitous fire from the sky begins in Central Europe. The cause may be a meteor storm from a comet's tail or some other celestial body or else debris and pyroclastic firestorms from an erupting supervolcano.
10) Radioactive fallout, chemical and biological weapons unleashed by Iran, North Korea, Russia at sea, and by India, Pakistan, and China, will cause 25 million deaths throughout the eastern Mediterranean, the Middle East, South Asia, and the Pacific. Deaths from SARS, Bird Flu, Mad Cow, and other horrors may also contribute to the figure worldwide.
11) A Serbian, Hungarian, or Czech leader is assassinated. This is likely the third murdered leader mentioned by Alois Irlmaier and the same leader prophesied by the Sister of Queen Brigite Order in Rome.
Note the similarity between the prophesied assassination of a leader from Yugoslav-Hungary as starting World War III and the historical assassination of the Archduke of Austria-Hungary as the trigger for World War I. Is it possible that some of these inspired prophets are simply regurgitating history as prophecy or is this an instance of history repeating itself (the premise of my base 7 system)?
12) Civil disorder and demonstrations, already plaguing Germany, Italy, and France for some time, start to become revolutions and civil wars. Islamic movements within the countries themselves are responsible for inciting much of the inner turmoil.
13) Russian troops, aided by Belarus, move against Ukraine and the former Warsaw Pact countries.
14) The leader of Iran, an ally of Russia and the former Soviet republics, declares war on the nations of the West.
15) Poland and Germany rise up unsuccessfully against Russia which quickly conquers and occupies Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Ukraine, Moldovia, and the Baltic nations of Estonia, Latvia , and Lithuania.
16) Russian-led troops invade Hungary, Romania, all the former Yugoslav states, and Greece. Iran helps by invading Macedonia and Bulgaria.
17) Russia invades an Italy already in chaos, without any US resistance, then the blitzkrieg of all Europe takes place. Aside from the US defeat in Saudi Arabia, there are other reasons not yet discussed on this page that will make it contribute only a little or no military aid to its allies.
The following news articles and email correspondence demonstrates the potential for civil disorder in one of the nations the prophets Alois Irlmaier, the Seer of Waldviertel, Josef Kugelbeer, Nostradamus, and others predicted would experience bloody revolutions around the time of World War Three. In the spotlight is the civil unrest in Paris that is spreading to other nearby cities. Also, from last year, a look at French Islamic leader Mohamed Latreche and the protests that grew in southern France last year and his possible future role in the events to come.
Saturday, November 5, 2005 Posted: 0307 GMT (1107 HKT)
EPINAY-SUR-SEINE, France (Reuters) -- Violence erupted again in poor suburbs of Paris where youths torched buildings and dozens of cars and sporadic unrest spread in the early hours of Saturday to at least three other French cities.
In a potentially worrying development for Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin's beleaguered government, police said more cars were set alight outside the greater Paris area than in the capital's suburbs, the epicenter of riots for more than a week. Out of a total of 152 vehicles reported burnt nationally, less than half were in the greater Paris region, with about a dozen or more cars set alight in each of Strasbourg, in east of France, Rennes in the west, and Toulouse in southwestern France ...
The latest outbreak of violence came despite a high-profile police presence. About 1,300 officers were deployed in Seine-Saint-Denis, the area worst hit in the disturbances and where the violence first began last week after two teenagers of African origin died while fleeing police. More officers patrolled other suburbs where unrest had broken out, national police said, adding that the units were more mobile than previously.
The violence that began in Seine-Saint-Denis has escalated this week and spread to a few other towns in France even before Saturday -- Rouen in northern France, Dijon in the east and Marseille in the south were all affected overnight between Thursday and Friday.
This has put mounting pressure on the government to restore order without alienating minority and underprivileged groups but Villepin's calls for calm have so far fallen on deaf ears ...
Wednesday, November 2, 2005 Posted: 0707 GMT (1507 HKT)
PARIS, France (AP) -- Unrest spread across troubled suburbs arround Paris in a sixth night of violence as police clashed with angry youths and scores of vehicles were torched in at least nine towns, local officials said.
Police in riot gear fired rubber bullets late Tuesday at advancing gangs of youths in Aulnay-sous-Bois -- one of the worst-hit suburbs -- where 15 cars were burned, according to officials in the Seine-Saint-Denis region. Youths lobbed Molotov cocktails at an annex to the town hall and threw stones at the firehouse. It was not immediately clear whether there were injuries from the clashes.
Four people were arrested for throwing stones at police in nearby Bondy where 14 cars were burned, the prefecture said. A fire engulfed a carpet store, but it was not immediately clear whether the blaze was linked to the suburban unrest.
Officials gave an initial count of 69 vehicles torched in nine suburbs across the Seine-Saint-Denis region that arcs Paris on the north and northeast.
The area, home mainly to families of immigrant origin, often from Muslim North Africa, is marked by soaring unemployment and delinquency. Anger and despair thrive in the tall cinder-block towers and long "bars" that typically make up housing projects in France.
No trouble was immediately reported in Clichy-sous-Bois, where rioting began Thursday following the accidental deaths of two teenagers hiding to escape police in a power substation. They were electrocuted while trying to hide from the police. A third was injured. Officials have said police were not pursuing the boys, aged 15 and 17.
Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin met Tuesday with the parents of the three families, promising a full investigation of the deaths and insisting on "the need to restore calm," the prime minister's office said.
Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy -- blamed by many for fanning the violence with tough talk and harsh tactics -- met Tuesday night in Paris with youths and officials from Clichy-sous-Bois in a bid to cap days of rioting. But the unrest spread even as they met. Sarkozy recently referred to the troublemakers as "scum" and "riffraff."
An Associated Press Television news team witnessed confrontations between about 20 police and 40 youths in Aulnay-sous-Bois with police firing tear gas and rubber bullets. Officials said that "small, very mobile gangs" were harassing police and setting fires to garbage cans and vehicles throughout the region. France-Info radio said some 150 blazes were reported in garbage bins, cars and buildings across Seine-Saint-Denis. The unrest highlighted the division between France's big cities and their poor satellites.
Tension had mounted throughout Tuesday after young men torched cars, garbage bins and even a primary school 24 hours earlier. Scores of cars were reported burned Monday night in Clichy-sous-Bois and 13 people were jailed.
Youths set two rooms of a primary school in Sevran on fire Monday along with several cars, Mayor Stephane Gatignon said in a statement.
Tuesday, November 1, 2005 Posted: 2330 GMT (0730 HKT)
|PARIS, France (AP) -- Violence erupted for
a sixth night Tuesday in the troubled suburbs northeast
of Paris with police firing rubber bullets and tear gas
as they faced down gangs of youths in Aulnay-sous-Bois,
according to witnesses. A store set afire in the nearby
suburb of Bondy, France-Info radio reported ...
An Associated Press Television news team reported confrontations between about 20 police and 40 youths in Aulnay-sous-Bois with police firing tear gas and rubber bullets.
France-Info said that about 100 fires burning in numerous suburbs of the Seine-Saint-Denis region, an area of soaring unemployment, delinquency and other urban ills. A carpet store in the town of Bondy was set afire, and cars were burning in Bondy and Sevran, France-Info reported.
Police said 13 people were jailed following rioting late Monday and early Tuesday in Clichy-sous-Bois and three other suburbs.
A total of 68 cars were torched in a handful of suburbs, LCI television reported, while police said 21 cars -- two of them police vehicles -- were set on fire in Clichy-sous-Bois on Monday night. The mayor of Sevran said youths set two rooms of a primary school on fire Monday night along with several cars. Police said three officers there were slightly injured. "These acts have a direct link to the events in Clichy-sous-Bois," Sevran Mayor Stephane Gatignon said in a statement.
Suburbs that ring France's big cities, home to immigrant communities often from Muslim North Africa, suffer soaring unemployment and discrimination. Disenchantment and anger thrive in the tall cinderblock towers and long "bars" that make up the projects.
The troubles were triggered by the deaths of two teenagers electrocuted in a power substation where they hid to escape police whom they thought were chasing them. A third was injured but survived. Officials have said police were not pursuing the boys, aged 15 and 17.
Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin met Tuesday with the parents of the three families who a day earlier had refused an invitation to meet the interior minister -- blamed by many for fanning anger with his tough talk and tactics. Sarkozy met Tuesday night with some of the victims' relatives, other youths, a police representative and officials from Clichy-sous-Bois, according to the Interior Ministry said, which gave no details of what was said at the meeting.
In Clichy-sous-Bois, the head of the Paris mosque, Dalil Boubakeur, visiting Muslim leaders there, was forced to leave abruptly after his car was pelted with stones, LCI reported. A tear gas grenade that landed in the mosque Sunday fed anger. It was unclear who fired the tear gas. A growing number of politicians and anti-racism groups claimed Sarkozy was inflaming the tense atmosphere.
Sarkozy recently referred to the troublemakers as "scum" or "riffraff," and in the past vowed to "clean out" the suburbs.
Even within the conservative government, there were critics. Such "warlike" words would not bring calm, Equal Opportunities Minister Azouz Begag said in an interview published in the daily Liberation. He told the paper that he "contests this method of becoming submerged by imprecise, warlike semantics." While re-establishing order demands firmness, "it is in fighting the discrimination that victimizes youths that order is re-established, the order of equality," said Begag, raised in a low-income suburb of Lyon.
The president of SOS-Racism, an anti-racism group, called Tuesday for a "massive investment plan" to cure suburban ills. "The police response alone ... is not at all adequate," Dominique Sopo said on France-Info radio, calling for a "real policy of breaking the ghettos."
PARIS, 25 January 2004 Mohamed Latreche, the French Islamic leader, is under judicial investigation for allegedly making anti-Zionist statements. Latreches association, Parti des Musulmans de France, was responsible for organizing recent marches against a proposed law banning headscarves in schools. The statements were allegedly made during the march on Jan. 17 when some 10,000 demonstators took to the streets of Paris and 10,000 others were reported to have marched throughout France.
According to French Justice Minister Dominique Perben, a specialized office of his ministry, will examine in detail audio and video recordings of statements Latreche which were broadcast on French radio and TV. One source in the ministry claimed that Latreche had said Zionism is an ideology of apartheid that we are combating in the same way that we combat Nazism.
He is also alleged to have said that, in his estimation, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Adolf Hitler were one and the same.
The Justice Ministry investigation was prompted, said the source, by complaints from several French anti-racist and Jewish organizations, among them the International League against Racism and Anti-Semitism and the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions of France. They say that Latreches statements were not only anti-Zionist but also anti-Semitic. They have demanded the Justice Ministry ban his party.
As a compromise, said the source, the Justice Ministry decided to open its investigation but has informed the two organizations that the dissolution of a political party is not in its power.
Latreche has responded to the investigation, saying that he is the victim of a defamation campaign.
From: Mr G
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:37 AM
Subject: warning message of doomed france
There is a very dangerous guy that has appeared on the french political scene called "mohammed Latreche" he is the director of the "french muslim party". he is violently anti jewish, speaks about the destruction of israel on Tv.
This guy is pure evil beware!
I am french but scottish of origin, I have moved to Hong kong because i know what will happen in france, the coming bloodiest civil war in history. I have a very very sick feeling about the future of france, in march, in regional elections, we will see the same drama with LE PEN in south of France and all over the country, the exteme vote will dominate again with sparked fury.
I have dreams of the future, I have allready seen this "future", the complete darkness falling over France. It is very sick.
Thanks for your great site.
Hello Mr G,
Thanks for writing.
I agree with your concerns. Nostradamus writes vividly of a revolution and civil war that will take place between a faction in southern France below the latitude where the city of Lyon lies and all the rest of France to the north. When I wrote my book on Nostradamus in the chapter regarding this civil war in 1996 and 1997, I even mentioned a Moslem leader as being the one called the "monster from the Lauragues."
Here is the start of the second French civil war and it is obviously NOT the first one of 1789:
DISCONTENT IN SOUTHWESTERN FRANCE INCITES REBELLION
This is as close as we may come to the conditions which will ignite a civil war in France: unpopular legislation, disputes over issues not described, business monopolies, and three prosperous cities which fall into economic ruin. The "massacre" the southern French will wish to "renew" is the French Revolution of 1789 - 1794. The "laws" and "quarrels" may, among other things, indicate an attempt by Jacques Chirac to put an end to New Age religion, paganism, and the peculiar mixture of Islam and Christianity which is proliferating throughout France.
I must ask, does Mohammed Latreche or Le Pen have a strong base in the places mentioned in the above quatrain and also in Languedoc, Carcassonne, along the Garonne river, and the Pyrenees mountains?
Here is what I wrote about a French Islamic leader becoming a tool in an Islamic revolution and new civil war in France which is also linked to revolution in Germany and Portugal:
The French rebels will receive military support from both Portugal and what will be a breakaway German republic ("new Aryans") comprised of several northern provinces situated above the 52nd degree of latitude (Hanover, Mecklenburg, and Schleswig-Holstein)-a region which Nostradamus indicates in his Epistle to Henry II will also become inflamed with civil conflict. Why Portugal will ally with southern France is uncertain.
All the French towns and cities mentioned are located in southern Languedoc, not far from the Pyrenees Mountains. Again we have mention of the rebel leader whom Nostradamus calls "the monster of the Lauragues." Lines 3 and 4 simply state that when the "intrigue" or insurrection originated in southern France is completed, he will become the new leader of France and, as will be demonstrated later, set up a puppet regime loyal to his benefactor: the Libyan Prince.
With the support of the Libyan Prince, the rebel leader is hailed as the new king of France by an assembly presumably made up of Arabs and Africans near the Pyrenees Mountains. However, even at this point in the war there has been no hard evidence linking Libya or the Moslem South with the insurgency which has succeeded in overthrowing the government. The leader of Italy, will soon come to fear this new sovereign and those who back him.
Well, I don't know for certain if in the end Moammar Gadhafi will be calling the shots and Mohammed Latreche will be his puppet, but Nostradamus does mention Libya and North Africa being involved in France's internal and international wars in many quatrains. I have read that Al Qaeda has strong ties with Malta, so perhaps it will be Osama bin Laden calling the shots?
I find this all very eerie, yet other prophets like Alois Irlmaier and the Waldviertler say the revolutions and civil wars will come to France, Italy, Germany ("new Aryans"), and even England during World War III.
In my book, I also project civil war in Italy will be started by Umberto Bossi and the Northern League. Perhaps you have heard of Bossi, he has been around since 1992 and is greatly opposed by Alessandra Mussolini, the granddaughter of Il Duce? I have read that northen Italy has attracted many Islamic people and Al Qaeda. Perhaps Islam will support Bossi's party?
So, you see, what you say makes much sense, there is much to fear. Yes, Islam will be the cause of the great mega-revolution that will sweep through France and as far east as the former Warsaw Pact countries of Hungary, the former Czechloslovakia, and Poland, the former Yugoslavia, and Russia herself.
But I still believe, as I say in an article on one of my Nostradamus NOW pages, that Le Pen will die from a shot through the eye, for he is the "envious one."
Thanks for writing and please do write again if you have any additional thoughts or comments.
From: Mr G
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 6:11 AM
Subject: reply from Mr G
Thanks for your response, yes, Le pen has strong bases in south of france especially Marseille, nice, and most of Provence region. Muslims are all over the country but mostly in south of Lyon, provence region, and surroundings of Paris about 6 millions of them ...
The following news article provides imminent concerns the US has regarding a potential violent regime change in Saudi Arabia and the resulting military strategem for restoring the country to the global oil economy and securing the oil fields in the meantime. Both the Seer of Waldviertel and Erna Stieglitz have predicted that America will lose the war in Saudi Arabia and that the oil fields will be taken by Russia.
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Tuesday, November 1, 2005
WASHINGTON The United States has raised the prospect of a military invasion of Saudi Arabia.
The House Armed Services Committee considered the possibility of a Saudi coup and U.S. response during a hearing on Oct. 26.
Saudi Arabia, with 200,000 military and National Guard troops, is the largest oil producer and exporter, with an output of nine million barrels of oil per day, according to Middle East Newsline. The Arab kingdom is the third largest supplier of oil to the United States, with more than 1.55 million barrels per day. The scenario was outlined by Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow of the Brookings Institution, who cited a Saudi coup as one of several threats to the United States.
"How should the United States respond if a coup, presumably fundamentalist in nature, overthrows the royal family in Saudi Arabia?" O'Hanlon asked. "Such a result would raise the specter of major disruption to the oil economy."
The response could include the deployment of three U.S. Army divisions backed by fighter-jets and airborne early-warning and alert aircraft. In all, the U.S.-led mission could include up to 300,000 troops.
Congressional sources said the House hearing, which focused on future threats in the Middle East and other regions, marked increasing U.S. concern of Saudi instability. They said the open hearing echoed a series of briefings on Saudi and Gulf Arab instability given by non-government analysts to the State Department, Defense Department and National Security Council since 2002.
The House committee was told that U.S. concern of a Saudi coup appears greater than ever. O'Hanlon said such a coup would also destabilize Pakistan, a nuclear power since 1998.
"This type of scenario has been discussed for at least two decades and remains of concern today perhaps even more so given the surge of terrorist violence in Saudi Arabia in recent years as well as the continued growth and hostile ideology of Al Qaida along with the broader Wahabi movement," O'Hanlon said. In his testimony, O'Hanlon envisioned a Saudi coup as resulting in the emergence of what he termed a fundamentalist regime intent on acquiring nuclear weapons. Another prospect was that the new regime would seek to disrupt the oil market.
"Indeed, it might be feasible not to do anything at first, and hope that the new regime gradually realized the benefits of reintegrating Saudi Arabia at least partially into the global oil economy," O'Hanlon said. "But in the end the United States and other western countries might consider using force."
O'Hanlon envisioned a U.S.-led military operation designed to seize Saudi oil wells, located along the eastern coast. Washington and its allies would place the proceeds from Saudi oil sales into escrow for a future pro-Western government in Riyad.
A U.S.-led military force of 300,000 would be required to secure the entire Saudi Arabia, O'Hanlon said. He said about 10,000 troops could capture eastern Saudi Arabia, which contains virtually all of the kingdom's oil wells. But more than 100,000 additional troops would be required to protect the wells and other vital infrastructure.
"An operation to overthrow the new Saudi regime and gradually stabilize a country of the size in question would probably require in the vicinity of 300,000 troops, using standard sizing criteria," O'Hanlon said. "So in fact a coastal strategy, while easier in some ways and perhaps less bloody in the initial phases, could be fully half as large and might last much longer."
Part Two of this presentation regarding the Russian invasion of Europe is on The War Room (Part Two).
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